Question:
What do you think of this?
Grammar Nut
2011-07-13 13:21:41 UTC
http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

Should children be banned from restaurants, planes, movie theaters, etc?

Personally, I think that an all-out ban might be too harsh but if parents refuse to make a reasonable effort to calm down their screaming, whining baby/child, they should definitely be forced to leave [unless they're on an airplane, obviously].

North Carolina did something similar last year and, apparently, it's working.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1310652/Olde-Saltys-restaurant-banned-screaming-children-says-business-booming.html

Please share your thoughts.
Eight answers:
marys.momma
2011-07-13 14:00:29 UTC
Some upscale restaurants have dealt with this issue by posting a discreet sign just within the entrance: "Chez Pierre is not a 'family' restaurant. We have no high chairs, booster seats, or children's menus. If you do bring children, they must remain well behaved, or your party will be asked to leave."



I know a mother who has conscientiously taught her children to sit still, keep their voices down, decide promptly what they'd like, and order politely from the menu. They're not allowed to complain, argue, or carelessly spill their food. They thank the server when their meals are brought.



Other patrons have been known to stop by their table with compliments on how nicely the children behaved. The servers often bring them free desserts, or give them lollipops as they leave.



Airline travel is a whole different issue. It's asking a lot of even the most placid children, to force them to tolerate long security lines, long corridors to the gate, long waits to board the plane, tight seating with no permission to move, relentless whine from the engines, and few interesting things to occupy them. Many babies cry because of the pain the pressure changes cause to their ears. It's very hard to feed a small child or attend to diapering or toilet issues right away, especially since the "fasten seat belt" signs are on so much of the time. And of course the mothers' usual methods of discipline, ranging from "time outs" to yelling or spanking, aren't possible in an airplane, so they just throw up their hands and ignore behavior they can't prevent.



Airlines used to try to make child passengers feel welcome, with special meals, coloring books and crayons, and little pilot's wings or hats. Now they're just considered a pain in the neck.



My suggestion (which the airlines will ignore): Don't have "No child passengers" flights. Instead, promote one-per-day "Child-friendly" flights. On well-traveled routes, with several flights a day, a late-morning flight would have fewer business people and more leisure travelers on it anyway.



Of course, with today's hub system, most air travel involves one or more connections. But any little tweak to make air travel more comfortable for both adult passengers and children would be most welcome.
?
2011-07-14 15:01:22 UTC
I find the only people who really have an issue with banning children from higher end restaurants, harder rating movies, and younger children from planes are those who usually bring their screaming brats with them and are the reason such bans are being placed.



I kind of laugh at some of the comments on that page. Yeah, a business is really going to start restricting customers who are not only paying, but who are not bothering anyone else.



As opposed to a screaming baby, which is not only annoying as heck but can cause ear damage if they hit the right pitch.



If you don't like it, you can eat somewhere else. I can tell you one thing though, I know plenty of adults, childless and parents alike, who are greatly enjoying those places.
anonymous
2011-07-13 20:27:09 UTC
I believe any owner of a private business should be allowed to make reasonable rules without government stepping in.



Also worked in the restaurant industry for several years as a server. I think this could be solved in other p;laces by simply making one area (as servers we all have stations) the "kids area" That way, all the parents and kids can eat and not worry about annoying other guests. I really don't know why such a simple implement isn't being used by the chains such as Denny's, Carrows, Red Lobster. Wouldn't that work for everyone?
Honeybee
2011-07-14 21:29:54 UTC
I'm really disturbed at the amount of human beings who dislike children. It's really sad and unfortunate that kids are unwanted, some even by their own parents. People fail to realize that we will all get old one day and will have to depend on our children to take care of us. Better set up a retirement home somewhere and not expect too many visitors. I want to leave this world surrounded by loved ones and my grandchildren. Be careful what you wish for people.
EvilWoman0913
2011-07-13 20:28:16 UTC
I don't click on links in this forum, but I do think I know what you're talking about. I agree with you about forcing unruly children to leave. If adults behaved the way some children do in public, they would be arrested, so I see nothing wrong with forcing the parents to take their children and vacate the premises. If parents are too stupid to see that their children are obnoxious little brats, there need to be laws or ordinances that give the rest of us the right to make them see it.
Miranda
2011-07-13 20:24:14 UTC
I actually think it is a good idea

I think they should do it everywhere

Cuz there are too many obese or over weigh children and it really breaks my heart when I see these little 5 year olds that weigh 80-100 pounds
?
2011-07-13 20:36:38 UTC
I wish more restaurants would do this. Or at least limit family dining time to before 8 p.m. More power to 'em.
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2011-07-13 20:23:21 UTC
Out of order.


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