Question:
Is using the n-word bad when you arent using it in a degrading way, or if no black people are around to hear?
drQuiggles
2006-07-18 21:17:57 UTC
Like, me and my friends always say "what up *** ga?" or "what up *****?" or "damn straight, *** ga!"

Is it offensive to black people if white people are using that word like that? If so, i plan to stop using it...i was just wondering so i dont offend anyone...
59 answers:
heavens_angel
2006-07-18 21:43:50 UTC
This is my opinion and my opinion ONLY, I don't see anything wrong with you using the word in the way that you do. n-i-g-g-a is just slang to me. i don't get all bent out of shape when someone uses it in the exact same way that i do/did. Not many people are going to agree with me on this because more than half of the world are still stuck on the racist side of this issue. at the same time i will say to you, don't get caught saying this around other black people because not too people feel the same way i do. nine times out of ten they will get offended. oh yeah, if you haven't figured yet, im black.
Lucifer
2006-07-18 21:25:00 UTC
****** is only a word. The connotation can affect peoples reactions, I.E. yelling ******* at the top of your lungs in most major metropolitan areas will get you promptly hurt, but the real power it has comes from what people give it. If you and those around you see no negative problems with the word and the way you use it then to you the word is harmless. When a group of black people use it the word gains a power of community and fraternity. When a guy dressing up as a mentally deficient ghost uses it the word it gains a malice rarely matched.



Overall the word is just a string of phenoms that make a recognizable sound. It is not inherently good or evil. It is the stock we put in it that gives it its meaning and power. So the only person that can answer your question to your satisfaction is you.



But yes, even using ****** as a term for friendship is offending to some people of the darker skin tones. But that's what centuries of negative emotions and connotations will do to a word.
Big E
2006-07-18 21:26:54 UTC
You know it's offensive, but if you want to test this theory just go up to a black person and say "what up n-----" and see what the reaction is.



I know that some people will argue that some black people use this word, so why can't we? Just like some gay people will use the word "queer". By reclaiming the word they are defusing its impact and its power as a term of abuse.



But if you are not black/a person of colour or gay, I would stay well away from using these words because they will cause offence, and you will be perceived as ignorant. But you knew that already.
ny2caligirl87
2006-07-19 11:04:06 UTC
How can you use the n-word in a non-degrading way? The n-word has over 300 years of hatred, violence, disrespect etc, attached to it. It was specifically used to put down African-Americans. Everytime you use that word you are insulting every African-American young/old in past/present/future. Its not cool to make light of a word that has caused generations of people pain. I don't think Dr. King Jr. would allow his white friend to refer to him as an N. For a black person to use or allow others to use the n-word makes those who don't really understand the depth of the word think its ok. It's not cute, fun, or awesome to use a word that perpetuates hatred no matter the "context". Put the word to rest.
The Chucksta
2006-07-18 21:23:45 UTC
If you are referring to it in a historical way like while writing a paper or giving a relevant speech, then yes. You can use it as necessary. For example, if you were writing an essay about the historical significance of the word or how it came to be. I mean, some black people won't find it offensive, but most will. Regardless of if it offends them or not, you sound ignorant using it in casual conversation with your friends. I mean it's just a word to me, but you probably wear ecko and fubu and are whiter than an egg shell.
lois k
2006-07-18 21:33:24 UTC
the word was not at first a bad word you can find that in a dictionary it was really a complement bu people have turned it bad and yes you are using it inappropriately you could do harm to others people or you could get your self in a lot of trouble theses days my son was shot seven times because he was in a club and it was run buy a Asian gang and because he was big and white they shot him no words so could you imagine what you might be provoking using this word , find a norther word that you all can use that is not offensive to any one,if you find a word that doesn't make sense only you and your friends think how confused others will be around you a secret word
desixraja
2006-07-18 21:22:09 UTC
Most urban africans arent that offended, compared to more of the older african generations. Its became a Slang word today. Its not widely accepted. I would suggest you find a new slang word within your group just as a general curiosity. It could hurt someones feelings. Also, if a tree falls in the middle of the forest and no one is there to hear it.. did it make a sound?.. lolz..
nc_strawberry
2006-07-18 21:31:38 UTC
There are a lot of stupid things that people say that offends others. The "N word" being one of them. If you obviously know you will offend someone, why ask? Also, it is just plain idiotic how some of these people have responded to your question. FYI: if a word/saying is offensive when one person says it (be they a different "color" than you), then why is it "ok" for someone of the same "color" to use it? It's the same context, by the way...it's still derogatory any way, shape or form.
bluesea112
2006-07-19 04:35:54 UTC
It is only a word. A word cannot be degrading, because a word does not have feelings or intentions. If a black chooses to feel a certain way, it is not the words fault or your fault. Feel free to use it as much as you like.
lily
2006-07-18 21:22:49 UTC
I think if you can appreciate the history of the word, you wouldn't use it as homey vernacular and in a casual context. Or at all.



The word is steeped in racism, slavery, violence, discrimination, murder and degradation.



I just don't think it's a word that should be bandied about. It's not "just a word". It has a history that can't be separated from it. Remember that every time you speak it, you are shrugging off and making "sexy" language that represents the plight and pain and torture of many many people. To use it lightly, it's like you are not respecting its real meaning and the history attached to it.



I'd be careful in using it carelessly and casually.
nathangreybaldwin
2006-07-18 21:23:50 UTC
If you use that word, whether you're black or white, you will offend someone. My advice is to use it at your own risk. Since what you're asking is totally subjective, you have no possibility of a guarantee that it is socially okay.



Probably better just to leave well enough alone. Have you really nothing better to say?
Jake 'N' Shakes
2006-07-18 21:23:20 UTC
It's just a word. The words get labeled as taboo because someone thinks that changing the word is going to change racial attitudes. ******, then *****, then colored, and now black is being phased out. It's only a matter of time before African American is phased out and we have to use a new word.
2006-07-18 21:28:36 UTC
Well, personally, I don't think its right for anyone to use the word. I do believe they would take offense, mainly because of issues that have happened many years ago. Yes, holding grudges is wrong, but you shouldn't say things like that. NO race should use that d-term.
2006-07-18 21:22:49 UTC
My sis's & cuz's say it in that way too & I don't think it's right. I mean, we're Metis & Native !!! (even tho some of them, like my sis, looks whitish lol)



Yes a Black person would be offended if they heard you say it. So, based on the A's we've given, looks like you're gonna stop saying it :D
leshers2x2
2006-07-18 21:21:35 UTC
I don't think you should use language you wouldn't use around everyone. It makes vulgar language seem acceptable and some day you may slip up and use the words and truly offend someone you never intended. Its best to use language even in private that is not vulgar or offensive to anyone.
just julie
2006-07-18 21:21:17 UTC
I have wondered the exact same thing. I like to say it when singing a long with rap songs. I have had a few black friends and they did not really like me to say it. I try not to say that word around people that I do not know or to hurt anyone around me.
MIKEBAYAREA
2006-07-18 23:10:30 UTC
Wow. . .look at all your responses. . .I have not. . .but would say:



*If you are NOT of African-American origin. . .do NOT use the "n" word. . .ever. . .even if no one else but your "buds" are listening!

*It's use today. ..as a controversial slang word. . .with an unpleasant history and past for all concerned. . .is to be reserved exclusively as a motivational-to-harsh word exchange between and among African-Americans only. . .and it's meaning. . .in this intra-ethnic instance. . .is "lazy person".



Enough said!
ymingy@sbcglobal.net
2006-07-18 21:20:36 UTC
If you cut down a tree in a forest and nobody else is there to hear it, does it make a sound to anyone else but you?



Yeah well what if there was a kid that you didn't see that the tree fell on.



Now instead of a kid, imagine a huge burly black man.
mistersato
2006-07-18 21:24:57 UTC
Don't use it. You're using a word that is soaking with centuries of bloody hatred and racism. Black guys have tried to "take it back," by making it their own, just like gays have tried to de-venom the words "f*g," "que*r" and "dyk*" by using them among their own in-group.



By using this word, however good your intentions, you're messing with a bag full of rattlesnakes.
2006-07-18 21:21:26 UTC
I'm black and I think that it is a rude and degrading word no matter what race uses it.....***** ***** whateva it still comes from the word ****** and it's NOT a good word and should def. be eliminated...by the way, good question.
sunflowers
2006-07-18 21:20:50 UTC
You are asking if anyone finds the N word offensive. I hope you already know the answer and are just being silly.
brat71825
2006-07-18 21:25:33 UTC
Would you say that word around a black person???? NOPE you wouldn't!! So why would you say it at all?? If you cant (or I should say you wouldn't!) say it to a black.....Yes is offensive if you say it and you think that no one hears you, someone does......
Gorgeous;//♥=]
2006-07-18 21:21:12 UTC
mmm lets think about this one...obviously racism is very bad and even "white" people angry. I.e me. Apparently, anyways would you LOVE to be called racist or degrading names when you aren't around, they don't even have to be about your race. People like you are what makes racism stay in our society. Would you like black people to call you a white cracker?



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memyselfandi
2006-07-18 21:26:27 UTC
The word itself is degrading. Whatever your intent is you still shouldn't use it.
valcus43
2006-07-18 21:22:54 UTC
It is offensive to me that some black people believe that it is OK for them to say things but not OK for others to say the same phrases.

BTW, I consider myself very liberal and respectful of racial, ethnic, political, and religious differences.

The exclusiveness of wanting to be able to do what others cannot seems to me to be undemocratic, unAmerican.
2006-07-18 21:21:26 UTC
Find a different word. Don't give anyone within earshot a reason to play victim on you. You don't need that headache. Find a different word, something less "hot topic".
2006-07-18 21:20:51 UTC
The only thing about it is that if you get used to saying it around your friends. . . . what if you slip up in public? I dont think its offensive to them because your not actually calling them it, but just be careful!
2006-07-18 21:29:38 UTC
It's Inconsiderate & shows insensitivity. It's just like a white person - in the South or Mid west - referring to other white people as " red - necks ", " white trash ", " trailer trash " or even " hicks ".
kickin
2006-07-18 21:32:28 UTC
The n-word is like the f-word the p-word the s-word the b-bomb all word can hurt with out trying so remember the l-word love the word that helps all . also what offensive to me i can turn and hurt you with
Anonymous
2006-07-18 21:23:36 UTC
well using the n word isnt bad well not really because i hear alot of ppl say dat even in front of black ppl... even as a friend like asians and black dey say "wassup *** ka" and things or such
MadforMAC
2006-07-18 21:22:52 UTC
I think you are old enough to understand it is not right to use that word. And you know it IS degrading. Best to stop before someone hears and stops you.
murphysmom
2006-07-18 21:35:02 UTC
Stop and think what ever nationality you are at that given moment would you like to be called that nationalities derogative word. MADE YOU THINK! THEN JUST DON'T DO IT. NOT COOL. IT IS CALLED R.E.S.P.E.C.T
clara j
2006-07-18 21:24:54 UTC
Why use it at all if you don't know.Too me the N- word don't fit my catagory.Nor, do i use it round family or friends or anything.
2006-07-18 21:24:35 UTC
All I know is that if any of my white friends said that to me I would beat them down. No joke. I don't know why African- Americans use it now. I'm black and I don't use it. So please , for your own sake, don't say that to any black person. Thanks!
Georgia Girl
2006-07-18 21:20:25 UTC
If it comes out of someone's mouth it's a bad word.It's a word we don't use here in the south.
7FAM
2006-07-18 21:27:26 UTC
I think the N-word is offensive whether your intentions are harmless or not... best not to joke around with it.
2006-07-18 21:22:24 UTC
Let's put it this way: give up the word entirely and your ignorance quotient will dramatically decrease.
2006-07-18 21:21:58 UTC
i think the way you're using that is a slang term and wouldn't be offensive or degrading to african americans.

they might call you a "wigga" for using it though :o
2006-07-18 21:23:06 UTC
It's one of those things, you don't have the right to use it if it's not you.



I'm gay, I can can call my friends, f**, but if you aren't gay you can't. Unless your a jerk.
Troubled
2006-07-18 21:22:23 UTC
If blacks can use it than so can others. You hear it everyday on TV, in music and even in the grocery store. So why not use it.
debee gee
2006-07-18 21:32:07 UTC
i am black person and you can use that word all you want around me because i am not that ( a "*** ga" ) and it doesn't offend me. a "*** ga" is trifling, wont work, take care of self or the kids they may produce, is not a asset to society, blames EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING on somebody and someone else, is ignorant, immoral and destructive, to name just a few characteristics of what a "*** ga" is . "*** ga" is not the color of skin but a negative mindset and based on the description i have provided I have seen the "*** ga" in every color of people in the world,-- white, black, latino, chinese, you name it, each color of people have their "*** ga's" ...so, no --"*** ga" doesn't offend me not one bit because a "*** ga" i am not.
2006-07-18 21:20:49 UTC
no i don't think so. It's so common now in the music and films we watch and listen to that it's just like saying what's up dude.
2006-07-18 21:20:22 UTC
u shouldnt use the work at all regardless if blacks are around or not its a terrible word dont use it
2006-07-18 21:19:14 UTC
if a black person hears u say that word they will go coco banas on u.
kev
2006-07-18 21:19:27 UTC
it's already bad saying the n-word even in different variations and slangs.
2006-07-18 21:29:57 UTC
Don't do it ...period. If you occasionally do, one day you will slip-up and get in trouble, and you might even get seriously hurt.
Pinkt41
2006-07-18 21:21:33 UTC
im mexican and if i herd a black person telling another black person whats up mY BEan AR id laugh~
2006-07-18 21:20:35 UTC
you better be careful or you'll get your a** whipped if your're caught by a black person. dont use it ever again, it aint cool.
2006-07-18 21:19:41 UTC
nah it's not offensive if they don't know about it. if they hear you just tell deny it and call them a racist for even accusing you. they won't know what to do!!
2006-07-18 21:20:57 UTC
It is still bad. You should try to quit saying it.
whatwouldyodado2006
2006-07-18 21:20:58 UTC
yes.



honky, chink, *******, jap all racial slurs. substitute and say in public. wait for a reaction.



Just dont use the word. at all. noboby
dr schmitty
2006-07-18 21:19:52 UTC
doctor to doctor, i would have to say that if you are white this is a bad move.
ndussere
2006-07-18 21:21:05 UTC
ofcourse it is...it's just a disgusting term, used to make people feel lower than you...shouldn't use it at all.....
kirsten215
2006-07-18 21:20:20 UTC
If you have to ask, you have to question your words.....



That probably means you should not do it.
Joe Knows
2006-07-18 21:23:21 UTC
What up my cracka! What up my n gga! what up my greaser! What up my beaner! What up my krout! What up my guido!
2006-07-19 05:33:10 UTC
good luck coz i can see you are looking for someone to handle you.
Beach Babe
2006-07-18 21:21:21 UTC
just don't even use it........theres no point
♥♦Marna♦♥
2006-07-18 21:37:49 UTC
The euphemism "the N-word" became a part of the American lexicon during the racially polarizing trial of O.J. Simpson, a retired football player charged with -- and ultimately acquitted of -- a widely publicized double murder. One of the prosecution's key witnesses was Los Angeles police detective Mark Fuhrman, who initially denied using racial slurs, but whose prolific and derogatory use of it on a tape recording brought his credibility into question. The recordings were from a session in 1985 that Fuhrman had with Laura McKinney, an aspiring screenwriter working on a screenplay about women in the police force. According to Fuhrman, he was using the word as part of his "bad-cop" persona.



Members of the media reporting on and discussing his testimony began using the term "the N-word" instead of repeating the actual word, presumably as a way to avoid offending audiences and advertisers. The euphemism was adopted quickly by Americans as a way to avoid uttering one of the most generally offensive words in American English. The euphemism is most often used in constructions like: "He called me the N-word", or "I can't believe she said the N-word." (This form mimics other euphemisms for offensive words such as "the F-word" for ****, "the B-word" for ***** or "the S-word" for ****.)



More recently the "N-word" has been joined by a similar euphemism suggestive of the potentially explosive nature of the racial epithet: "drop the N-bomb" as in "You didn't need to drop the N-bomb".



Bottom line: It's not really okay for anyone to degrade another person and the "n" word is derogatory. There is no nice meaning to it.



Just like the "C" word, and why women hate that word. You don't lovingly call a woman a "****" -- if you call her a "****" you are being derogatory and hurtful







The History of the word -- (its very long)





****** is a term used to refer to dark-skinned peoples. During the period when slavery was practiced worldwide, and in particular by the United States and European countries, and for several decades after Europe and North America prohibited slavery, it was a standard, casual English term for black people. The word traditionally has been associated with an overt contempt, a racist assumption of black inherent inferiority, even of bestiality, making it extremely pejorative. In the last 100 years, it has also become an informal and self-referential term among some African Americans. In such a context, it is often spelled "*****," to mitigate offensen



The word ***** stems from the Latin word Niger, meaning black. In English, ***** or neger became negar and finally ******, most likely under influence of French nègre. Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the New York City African Burial Ground was originally known as "Begraaf Plaats van de Neger."



In the United States, the word ****** was not originally considered derogatory, but merely denotative of black, as it was in much of the world. In nineteenth-century American literature, there are many uses of the word ****** with no intended negative connotation (see below). The perception of the term ****** as derogatory is no doubt related to the fact that the ***** race itself was widely regarded as inferior, lazy, simian-like in appearance, stupid, and criminally inclined by many whites of the time. There is an observable pattern of terms denoting black people which have come to be regarded as derogatory, just as exist for all ethnic groups. Some well known ones are: ******, darky, coon, Spooks, and colored, all of which were at various times acceptable, but are now considered offensive in North America. Black was generally the preferred term from the late 1960s until the 1990s, but has now been displaced in politically correct usage by African American, which resembles the term Afro-American that was in vogue in the early 1970s. The term African American is imprecise, insofar as the population of Africa is not entirely black (indeed, the term could be applied to hundreds of thousands of white South African immigrants), not all blacks live in the Americas, and most so called blacks of North America are mixed race. The term also seems pretentious to many, as did the term "person of color," which (ironically, insofar as it means the same as "colored person") gained some currency in the early 1990s. Consequently, Black continues in widespread popular use as a racial designation.



In Cuba the Spanish word prieto (similar origin to the Portuguese preto) is not derogatory. In Cuba a prieto is someone who is very dark, but not black ("*****"). The Spanish word for "black" is "*****" (nay-gro). White Southern dialect in many parts of the southern United States changes the pronunciation of "*****" (nee-grow) to "nigra" (nih-gruh). The form "******" may have come about from "nigra" through metathesis.



At times, black peoples have appropriated the slur, subverting it to a self-referential term that is often suggestive of familiarity, endearment, or kinship. Another, perhaps more cynical usage, connotes a type of "reminder" or admonition that the fellow black person being spoken to is "black too", with all the implied societal baggage that comes with it; that is, that (according to the usage) one black is not superior to another, despite any apparent success in so-called "white society", and importantly that they "ought not forget it". It's a general put-down to strip away any differences between the two parties. This usage is unfortunate, as it can be defeatist reasoning, but it exists nonetheless. However, it could potentially be useful in motivating a black person to re-engage in their ethnic roots and culture, if they come to a realization that they have strayed too far from it through the general assimilation that goes along with modern culture and globalism.



The word is occasionally spelt nigguh or even nikuh in imitation of some speakers' pronunciation. However, the forms ***** and ****** are far more common alternatives. Other variations designed to avoid the term itself include nookah and ******.





In the United States, the word was freely used by both whites and blacks, until the Civil Rights Era of the 1960s. A striking example is in televised coverage of a march in Birmingham, Alabama, when protesters, led by Dr. Martin Luther King, were met with attacks from dogs and fire hoses. A white woman from another Alabama county was interviewed. Visibly upset, she said, "It's not right. We don't treat ******* like that here." Louisiana Governor Earl Long also used the term when advocating expanded voting rights for "African Americans". At that time, the term was less noteworthy than the expressions of support by white southerners, as it was a common regional term for blacks, along with ***** and "colored".



Today, the implied racism of the term is so strong that the use of ****** in most situations is a social taboo in English-speaking countries. Many American magazines and newspapers will not even print the word in full, instead using n*gg*r, n**ger, n——, or simply "the N-word". A Washington Post article on Strom Thurmond's 1948 candidacy for President of the United States went so far as to replace it with the periphrasis "the less-refined word for black people". The word was also completely excised from the Microsoft Encarta dictionary, despite its common usage. The shock effect of the word can also be used to deliberately cause offense. Several activists, such as Dick Gregory, have said the use of "N-word" instead of "******" throughout modern English vernacular robs younger generations of the full history of black people in America. For example, using "the N-word" in place of "Nazi", which was also a pejorative term, would rob younger generations of the full gravity of the Holocaust. More recently, the term has been used to signify a black person who is a thug, instead of black people altogether.



In Australia, although in general the meaning of the word is perfectly well understood to refer to African-Americans, it is now rarely used by urban light skinned people in any context; when referring to indigenous Australians, the casual terms Abo and the more derogatory boong are used in its place. However, ****** has seen common use in rural or semi-frontier districts. In this context, the usage was British colonial, that is, applying generically to dark-skinned people of any origin (c.v. Rudyard Kipling). This has led to controversy, since Australian Aborigines have started to take the term strongly to heart, in both the pejorative and revisionist senses (see below under Names of places and things). In neighboring New Zealand the term has been used to refer to the Māori people as well (Simpson, 1989), but the word Māori itself is often used as a derogatory adjective, much the way ****** is used in the US.



In the past, ****** was sometimes used as a synonym for "defect". For example, the May 1886 issue of Scientific American, page 308 said, "The consequence of neglect might be that what the workmen call ‘a ******’ would get into the armature, and burn it so as to destroy its service". Similarly, when performing shoddy but functional work, one is said to "****** rig it", especially when duct tape is used in place of proper equipment. See also: jury rig



Also in the past, ****** sometimes meant a disadvantaged person. For example, Ron Dellums, an American politician once said that "it's time for somebody to lead all of America's *******".[1] Similar uses of the word were made by Mark Twain and Charles Dickens.



The term ****** is also applied to a piece of machinery that was used in lumber mills until the mid-point of the 20th century. It refers to a device that turns a log while it is being stripped of its bark. This may be an off-hand reference to the prejudicial use of the word, as until the machine was invented, this was considered a job too dangerous for anyone other than a black man.



****** has a long history of controversy in literature. Carl Van Vechten, a white photographer and writer famous as a supporter of the Harlem Renaissance, provoked debate and some protest from the African American community by titling his 1926 novel ****** Heaven. The controversy centered on the use of the word in the title and fueled the sales of the hit novel. Of the controversy, Langston Hughes wrote:



No book could possibly be as bad as ****** Heaven has been painted. And no book has ever been better advertised by those who wished to damn it. Because it was declared obscene, everybody wanted to read it, and I'll venture to say that more Negroes bought it than ever purchased a book by a ***** author. Then, as now, the use of the word "******" by a white was a flashpoint for debates about the relationship between black culture and its White patrons.



The famous controversy over Mark Twain's novel Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (1885), a classic frequently taught in American schools, revolves largely around the novel's 215 uses of the word, often referring to ****** Jim, Huck's raft mate.[2][3]



****** in the Window is a book written by a young black girl who describes the world from her window.[4]



Slaves often pandered to racist assumptions by using the word "******" to their advantage in the self-deprecatory artifice of Tomming.[5] Implicit was an unspoken reminder that a presumedly inferior person or subhuman could not reasonably be held responsible for work performed incorrectly, a fire in the kitchen, or any similar offense. It was a means of deflecting responsibility in the hope of escaping the wrath of an overseer or master. Its use as a self-referential term was also a way to avoid suspicion and put whites at ease. A slave who referred to himself or another black as a "******" presumably accepted his subordinate role and posed no threat to white authority.



An example of this historical use in American literature occurs in Edgar Allan Poe's short story The Gold Bug (1843). The narrator and a white character in the story use ***** to refer to a black servant, Jupiter, while Jupiter himself uses ******.[6][7]



Agatha Christie's novel And Then There Were None, also known as Ten Little Indians, originally appeared as Ten Little *******. Among the classic novels of Joseph Conrad (famous for his use of the word in Heart of Darkness) is The ****** of the 'Narcissus' (1897).



Harper Lee's 1960 novel, To Kill a Mockingbird, also uses the term "******" throughout, and efficiently demonstrates the racism present during the mid-1930s.



Other examples of literary usage in Great Britain during the late 19th and early 20th centuries suggest a more neutral usage of the term, which can cause a problem when reading such books today when the word has such an offensive meaning.



In the original version of their operetta “The Mikado” by Gilbert and Sullivan, The Mikado in his song “Make the Punishment fit the Crime” used the line “Blacked like a ******/ With permanent walnut juice” when describing the appropriate punishment for an overly madeup society lady. It was changed in 1948, after much objection to the word after D'Oyly Carte performances in America, to “Painted with vigour/ And permanent walnut juice”.[8]



The “Scarlet Pimpernel” contains a black character referred to casually as a “******”, in a way which suggests no serious insult is intended.



In one John Buchan novel the hero goes into a night club in the early 1920s, where “a rather good ****** band” is playing.



P.G. Wodehouse's Thank You, Jeeves has Bertie Wooster mention that he would like to practice the banjo with a "troupe of ****** minstrels".



It has been suggested that the USA usage became more prevalent in Great Britain during and after the Second World War. Whether this is through contact with American troops or whether it reflects a growing racism in UK society is open to question.



War Comes to Willy Freeman by James Collier and Christopher Collier (ISBN 0440495040) mentions the word "******" nineteen times. Current readers complain as this use of the word is unnecessary and, in the 18th century context of the story, is not historically correct.



Rudyard Kipling's Just So Story "How the Leopard Got His Spots" tells of how an Ethiopian and a leopard, who are originally sand-colored, decide to paint themselves for camouflage when hunting in dense tropical forest. The story originally included a scene in which the leopard, who now has spots, asks the Ethiopian why he doesn't want spots as well. The Ethiopian's original reply, "Oh, plain black's best for a ******", has been changed in many modern editions to read, "Oh, plain black's best for me."



At one time, the word was used freely in branding and packaging of consumer commodities in the U.S. and England. There were brands such as ****** Hair Tobacco, ********** Oysters, and other canned goods. Brazil nuts were casually referred to as "****** toes". As times changed, so did labeling practices. The tobacco brand became "Bigger Hare" and the canned goods brand became "***** Head". Eventually, such names disappeared from the marketplace altogether.[9][10]



The comedian and activist Dick Gregory used the word as the title of his best-selling autobiography in 1964. In 1967, Muhammad Ali explained his refusal to be drafted to serve in the Vietnam War by saying, "I got nothing against no Viet Cong. No Vietnamese ever called me '******,'". In 1972, John Lennon released a song, "Woman is the ****** of the World", the title of which implied that women were universally oppressed. During the same year, Curtis Mayfield used the word in the first verse of "Pusherman" (a hit song from the Superfly soundtrack). Pierre Vallières, a founding member of the FLQ terrorist group, wrote a book in 1968 called Les Nègres blancs de l'Amérique, comparing the alleged oppression of French-Canadians to that of blacks in the southern United States. When it was translated into English, it was published under the title White ******* of America.



Not every usage of the word '******' in entertainment media has sparked protests or denouncement. In one notable exception, British punk rock pioneer Elvis Costello used the term in one lyric of Oliver's Army, from the album Armed Forces. Ironically, this usage - 'One more widow, one less white ******' - sparked no recorded protests or complaints, and the video for the song was aired uncensored on several music programs and networks, such as MTV and VH1, for years.



Jewish comedian Lenny Bruce used the word repeatedly in a comedy routine, suggesting that the more it was used and heard, the less potency it would have. Richard Pryor, whose albums included That ******'s Crazy and Bicentennial ******, vowed to never use the word ever again after a trip to Africa in the 1980s. Commenting that he never saw any ******* while in Africa, Pryor said he realized that ******* were figments of white people's imaginations.



In 1988, hip hop group N.W.A. ("****** With Attitude") released the album Straight Outta Compton. Although they abbreviated it in all official contexts, their self-referential use of the word caused a great deal of controversy in America over the language and lyrics of hip hop. Today, the word is used nearly universally among black rappers in casual contexts.



While ***** raises relatively few objections when used by black rappers, it generally is considered off-limits to nonblack performers, with exceedingly rare exceptions. According to a 1998 interview with Spin, the Beastie Boys, an all-white hip-hop group, left the stage mid-performance after a friendly but ill-received use of the word to refer to their audience. [1] In 2001, Latina performer Jennifer Lopez provoked the ire of the African American community when she used the word in a song written by two black songwriters. Meanwhile, wrath was limited toward punk rocker Patti Smith when she released the song "Rock 'n' Roll ******" in 1978, and non-existent toward Marilyn Manson when they covered the song in 1995 and later used the word openly in their own song, "Irresponsible Hate Anthem."



Many left-wing hardcore punk bands say "******" in their songs. The Dead Kennedys (whose drummer was black) say ****** in their song "Holiday in Cambodia," by saying, "acting like you know how the ******* feel cold and the slums got so much soul." MDC (aka Millions of Dead Cops) use ****** in their song "Dead Cops," by saying, "hunting for queers, *******, and you" in reference to the police. Even British anarcho-punk band Crass use ****** on "White Punks on Hope" when they say, "If you care to take a closer look at the way things really stand, you'll see we're all just ******* to the rulers of this land." The use of ****** in most punk rock songs is for a number of reasons, the first of which is blatant disregard for anything deemed as taboo. It is also used in a mocking way, as a gesture to make fun of or illustrate how others think or use it as a pejorative term. As the majority of these bands are staunchly anti-racist, their usage of '******' can be for many other reasons, including cursing so frequently to begin with or that the social stigmas behind any vulgar words are completely absurd, much for the same reasons that comedian George Carlin points out.



Many modern hardcore bands, especially ones in the underground, while not rapcore or hip-hop influenced directly, have taken to using the words ***** and ****** in the same way that rap and hip-hop artists do, but in greater frequency. This is both a mockery of the blacks who abuse the words as well as the whites generally deemed as 'whiggers' who try to discreetly use the words in the same manner as blacks. As hardcore music is rooted in punk, it takes heavily from the punk rock ideas of blatant disregard and abuse of anything taboo in mainstream society. As many whites are afraid to criticize any aspect of black culture or subcultures out of fear of being accused of racism, hardcore bands pounce on it and are quick to mock the thug lifestyle for its inherent shortcomings and misdirected ambitions. The PC Death Squad is a good example of one of these bands. It has become increasingly popular in white, middle class suburbia to mock what is portrayed in rap music, and this resonates in hardcore. It is not hateful or racist, but stems from a frustration of not being allowed to criticize things because it is not socially acceptable or politically correct for whites to do so.



Eminem, an immensely popular white rapper appreciated by a multitude of races and with many affiliations to African Americans, generally refrains from using the word, although this might be out of choice rather than racial context. Recently the word ***** has been used by many non-white, but non-black rappers such as Fat Joe, Pitbull and most latin artists. The slang term has brought some controversy to America and confusion to the white population as to what forms of the word is offensive and what forms are not offensive.



African American comedian Chris Rock's 1996 television special Bring the Pain and 1997 album Roll with the New included a segment known as "****** vs Black People", which humorously describes the behavior of some blacks that conform to a theoretical stereotype. Rock cast "******" as "low-expectation-havin'" individuals - proud to be ignorant, violent, and on welfare; the equivalent of "white trash". The controversy surrounding this, to which many took exception because they felt it pandered to racism, was such that Rock ceased performing it.



Conversely, part of the repertoire of white American comedian George Carlin is a routine concerning sensitive words - that words by themselves are never good or bad and it's the user's intention that counts. "We don't mind when Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy uses it," he quips. "Why? Because we know they're not racists. They're *******!"



Since the coining of the phrase "the N-word" (see below), some television broadcasters have added the word ****** retroactively to their lists of taboo words, thereby censoring movies and television programs from the past in which the word is used, no matter its context or the effect on the program. For example, television broadcasts of the film Die Hard with a Vengeance which originally featured a white character being placed in jeopardy when forced to carry a sign saying "I hate *******" around Harlem, are altered so that the sign now says "I hate everybody", which is not offensive and, critics argue, renders the scene far less effective. The comedy series All in the Family is rarely censored even though the "N-word" is used frequently—likely because the primary premise of the classic, groundbreaking show is directly related to the main character's social backwardness and racial biases. On the other hand, Mel Brooks's anti-racism comedy Blazing Saddles, which was co-written by Brooks and Richard Pyror, is rarely shown on American commercial television any more due to the pervasive use of the word. However, as in All in the Family, the film's intent was to call attention to the issues of racism through satire—a fact discussed at length by Brooks when the film's 30th-anniversary edition DVD was released in 2004, and already patently obvious in the film's premise of a town full of white people reacting with hostility to their new black sheriff.



African-American comedian Dave Chappelle frequently has used the word in satire. In the first season of his show, Chappelle's Show, a blind white supremacist, unaware of the fact that he is black, uses the word repeatedly in remarks disparaging black people and at the end of the sketch, after learning the truth, comments that he left his wife because she is a "******-lover". The second season of the Dave Chapelle show examines this word closely with the sketch "The ****** Family", a portrayal of a 1950s white family with a last name resembling the infamous word. The comedy hinges upon the interaction among other members of the community and results in an uncensored and laughable outcome. (source: Multimedia Events-John Cashew)



The controversial animated series The Boondocks frequently uses the word "*****" by the main characters and sometimes others. The term can be used to shock the other characters or for satirical purposes, as when Granddad tells Huey not to use the word in his house and Huey reminds him that he himself used the word 46 times the day before. Granddad's reply is "***** hush!". In the same episode, a drunk Uncle Ruckus sings a song entitled "Don't Trust Those New ****** Over There". Afterwards, there is a short clip with two non-Black characters, one of which says "I think it's OK if they say it." The show also makes note of "***** Moments", where an otherwise well-adjusted black man acts in an ignorant or self-destructive way out of anger. The show was criticized for putting the word "*****" in the mouth of a fictionalized Martin Luther King Jr.



Actor Damon Wayans of the Wayans Brothers tried in 2005 to trademark the word "*****" for use on clothing, books and other merchandise. His application was rejected by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, citing a law that prohibits marks that are "immoral or scandalous." A previous attempt by entrepreneur Keon Rhodan to trademark the term "*****'Clothing" in 2001 was also unsuccessful.



In the 2005 film Be Cool, the leader of the Russian Mafia tells Sin LaSalle (Cedric the Entertainer) to "Be cool, ******!" Daboo (Andre 3000), surprised and obviously offended whispers "******?". At this point, Sin launches into a long, well thought out lecture on how only truly ignorant people use the term to disrespect someone's race.



Because the word was used freely for many years, there are many official place-names containing the word ******. Examples include ****** Bill Canyon, ****** Hollow, and ********** Marsh. In 1967, the United States Board on Geographic Names changed the word ****** to ***** in 143 specific place names, but use of the word has not been completely eliminated in federal government.



One specific example is that of '****** Head Mountain', located just outside of Burnet, Texas. For decades, a particular hillock was referred to as such due to the forestation at the peak resembling a black man's hairstyle of the times. It became a popular spot for the predominantly white local high school students to show their spirit by holding pep rallies and post-game parties, and even during the start of the Civil Rights Movement news services continued to refer to the hillock as '****** Head' with almost no reported complaints from either side of the rights struggle. In 1966, First Lady Lady Bird Johnson, as part of her beautification efforts at the time, denounced the name and asked both the US Board on Geographic Names and the US Forest Service to take immediate steps to change the name to something more acceptable to reflect changing views. The name was officially changed to 'Colored Mountain' in 1968, and while both maps and road signs were replaced with ones bearing the new name, local inhabitants still refer to the location by its original name. There was also a "Dead ****** Creek" in central Texas that changed its name to "Dead ***** Creek".



A point on the Lower Mississippi River was known well into the middle and late 20th century as Free ****** Point, or Freenigger Point. A later variation was Free ***** Point, but the location, in West Baton Rouge Parish, is now known as Wilkinson Point.[11] The geographic coordinates are 30.5126893° N 91.2126084° W.



A jagged rock formation resembling a silhouetted human face protruding from a cliff over highway 421 north of Pennington Gap, Virginia was called "****** Head Rock" until the 1970s, when the name was changed to "Great Stone Face." Checks issued by a local bank in the 1940s bore an illustration of the rock accompanied by the original name.



The British term for a black iron marine bollard, made from an old cannon partially buried muzzle upward with a slightly oversize black cannonball covering the hole, was "**********". Sailors also once called an isolated coral head a **********. The latter are notorious as navigation hazards.



Many varieties of flora and fauna commonly are still referred to by terms which include the word. The ******-head cactus, which is native to Arizona, is round, the size of a cabbage, and covered with large, crooked thorns. The colloquial name for echinacea, or coneflower, is, variously, "Kansas **********" or "wild **********". The "********** termite"(Nasutitermes graveolus)[12] is native to Australia.



Around the world, the names of several varieties of foods do, or did, include the words. Brazil nuts are often referred to as "****** toes". An Irish colloquialism described prunes as "******'s knackers". A popular chocolate snack in Belgium is widely known as Negerinnetetten (negress's ****), however it is sold under the trademark Melo-cakes. Another chocolate treat in Holland was until recently called Negerzoenen (***** kisses), but is now called Buys Zoenen (Buys Kisses) after the vendor's name. In Sweden, the traditional treat Negerbollar (***** balls) is now more commonly referred to as Chocolate-, Oat- or Coco-balls.



In April 2003, there was a stir in Australia over the naming of part of a stadium in Toowoomba, "E.S. ****** Brown Stand". "****** Brown" was the nickname of Toowoomba's first international rugby player. Edward Stanley Brown used the shoe polish brand "****** Brown". The stand was named in the 1960s. As in the United States some decades ago, the word was used casually by whites, with little thought. Brown himself was happy with the nickname, and in fact it is written on his tombstone. A growing black consciousness among Australia's aboriginal population, however, has led to the term being considered increasingly offensive, particularly when uttered by whites.



Australian activist Stephen Hagan took the responsible local council to court over the use of the word. Hagan lost the court case at the district and state level, and the High Court ruled that the matter was beyond federal jurisdiction. The federal government cited the High Court ruling on a lack of federal jurisdiction as its legal justification for continued inaction. (Hagan also has tried changing other supposed racial slurs such as the Coon brand of cheese.)



General John Pershing is remembered by the nickname "Black Jack", which was coined by World War I reporters who couldn't print his actual nickname "****** Jack".
2006-07-18 21:19:55 UTC
No, that's acceptable in any society. DUH.


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